Saturday, March 21, 2009

Kedudukan Mata Keseluruhan Kejohanan Catur MSSM 2009

Johan : Selangor (112 mata / 38 pemain).
Extra players U12 girl sumbang 7 mata dan U15 girl 2 mata= 9 mata
Mata sebenar 103.

Naib Johan : Kuala Lumpur (107 mata / 36 pemain)
Ketiga : Pulau Pinang (69 mata / 36 pemain)
Keempat : Perak (67 mata / 36 pemain)
Kelima : Johor (64 mata / 36 pemain)
Keenam : Kelantan (48 mata / 36 pemain)
Ketujuh : Kedah (46 mata / 36 pemain)
Kelapan : Negeri Sembilan (45 mata / 36 pemain)
Kesembilan : Pahang (41 mata / 35 pemain)
Kesepuluh : Terengganu (40 mata / 36 pemain)
Kesebelas : Sarawak (38 mata / 36 pemain)
Kedua belas : Sabah (37 mata / 35 pemain)
Ketiga belas : Melaka (34 mata / 36 pemain)
Keempat belas : Perlis (24 mata / 36 pemain)
Kelima belas : Labuan (22 mata / 34 pemain)
Keenam belas : Putrajaya (16 mata / 18 pemain)

90 comments:

Anonymous said...

KL masih juara!!!

Anonymous said...

at least selangor didnt lose on their own soil...

Anonymous said...

The 2 players who were allowed to play should be allowed medals and certificates BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE STATE'S POINTS. MSSM should review this result as it seems very unfair especially when one notes that these 2 players made the difference which state became overall champions. This was NOT done in the true spirit of Chess or of any such competition.

Collin

Anonymous said...

Selangor took advantage of an existing clause from the previous MSSM 08 in Malacca that the host state can replace players of other state that were absent and not allow a bye situation in the individual event.I personally believe this should be allowed but only the top 2 players scores should be allowed to contribute to Contingent points.As a Selangorian,winning this way is not in the spirit of MSSM.

Anonymous said...

Its the law, so should not fault Selangor. What if KL in same position? typical sore loser ma

Anonymous said...

No. 2 bukan johan ler!

Anonymous said...

KL patut belajar menerima kekalahan..

Anonymous said...

kl doesnt need an unfair advantage to win. kl needs an unfair disadvantage to maintain some challenge =)

Anonymous said...

You know last weekend, Manchester United lost 0 - 2 to Fulham. MU had 9 players and Fulham had the normal 11. That is okay because Fulham played very well for most of the game and I think that they deserve their victory.

However, it would look very unfair if one soccer team had 13 players while the other had 11! This is what happened in Selangor's case. It is an empty victory for Selangor.

Better to be proud in defeat than shamed in victory.

Anonymous said...

Rules were set long before and now Kl said unfair. hmm only Kl think unfair. make us all shame Kl sore loser. Aiyah Kl should not exist mah. also got Labuan and Putrajaya. Three teams still confuse

Anonymous said...

That Manchaster Fulham thing, stupid example ma. Fulham lost full stop. 13 players ? Rules dont provide so issue dont arise ma. Wahh this colin fello so clever tell during mssm meeting la . Why only now clever talk during Malacca meeting lah

Anonymous said...

Should report to MSSM official about this irresponsibl blog post. this type of teacher should be sack

Anonymous said...

As a former Selangor sportsman from MSSM,i want to clarify that Selangor has won so many honours in different sports for so many decades and this honour stays with us throughout our lives. We as sportsman in Selangor do not need to go cheating to win sports glory.As a Selangor person i call upon whom ever is representing Selangor at present to stop defending what is wrong while winning under false pretences. Please returned back this sporting pride to Selangor sports and MSSM

Anonymous said...

It is not Selangor that created the rules alone, KL and the rest are also involved long before. So dont blame Selangor and to this former Selangor sportsman dont be an idiot or are you saying MSSM sportsman are idiots

Anonymous said...

If Selangor don't have the two players, eangor DEAD already la. Nevermind KL, still got nex year.

(This post was posted by a child)

Anonymous said...

The one who sent 6.47, dont know what is going on during the meeting.
Pretend like you know everything.

Anonymous said...

Apa nama? Macam mana 36 pemain boleh melawan 38 pemain? Macam Buli saja! Macam Soros! Takkan lah Selangor tidak boleh menang dengan 36 pemain. Mungkin tidak. Ha! Dey, malu lah sikit.

Dr M

Anonymous said...

we all talking is about selangor is playing cheathing la own soil wat the ****

Anonymous said...

this person really under the rock la selangor is a cheater coz the extra playar can play but their point can not contribute to selangor

Anonymous said...

Why Kedah 46 points but behind Kelantan?

Keenam : Kelantan (45 mata)
Ketujuh : Kedah (46 mata)
Kelapan : Negeri Sembilan (45 mata)

Anonymous said...

Of course I know as I have been involved past 5 years. FYI I am from Eastcoast state. Rules are rules - we set the rules and we play by the rules

P.S Dr M is History

From 6.47

Greg Lau said...

I must say this year MSSM 09 is the best so far in terms of tournament and organization aspects. I take this opportunity to congratulate the Host MSSM SELANGOR Organizing Committee, En.Rosman,En.Aminuddin and the MSSM Committee who gave their all for making this year MSSM edition a successful and wonderful Chess event. Your sacrifices as teachers for chess development has my highest salute and admiration.
I will surely look forward for next year MSSM 2010 edition.

Anonymous said...

If this Greg fella from MCF, he trying to cari makan from MSSM ma! At MCF put teachers also to cari makan. So can be get coach job. at MCF goyang kaki :(

Anonymous said...

anyone pls tell me selgor blog

Anonymous said...

selangor doesnt have the technology to create a blog.

Anonymous said...

"Greg Lau" isnt gregory lau. it doesnt sound like him.

Anonymous said...

Earlier we blamed Selangor for being unfair. But now, we now blame them for not having their own msss blog!

Batu Api

Anonymous said...

KL teachers are lazy compared to Selangor teachers

Anonymous said...

Apa nama? Saya dengar semua cikgu bagus, Selangor, KL, Kedah, Langkawi, Terenganu, dll tempat. Macam Soros dulu-dulu, mungkin ada mastermind di sini.

Tun

Anonymous said...

pls dunt blame KL teacher, for all the KL players, they will says" KL teacher is the best!!"

Anonymous said...

are you kidding? you obviously havent been to the ninth floor of the goldcourse hotel during the tournament, or you just dont know which are the kl teachers

Anonymous said...

kL teacher is the best ,kL teacher is the BESSTT !!!!

Anonymous said...

teruk nya.. siap kata ckgu kL lebih malas dari ckgu selangor... dah hilang pertimbangan la korg . mssmkl blog d sempurnakan oleh ckgu kL.. semua pun tumpang ambil info , mereka tak kedekut pun...terus la kutuk sampai terbelit lidah. CARI LAH CKGU KORG YG RAJIN TU..untuk betul kan ..kot nanti tak boleh berkata2 lagi

freak said...

Not matter what have been commented earlier. I would to conclude that KL team still won the highest nos. of gold/silver/bronze medals in this event and i think, correct me if i am wrong, better than last year's results in Melaka.

Thus, KL team : U still the BEST!!!!

Anonymous said...

Kita harus meletakan keutamaan kepada PENCARIAN JAGUH dikalangan pemain, dan mengetepikan sentimen PENCARIAN JUARA KESELURUHAN dikalangan pasukan yang bertanding. Nak buat apa kita gah dengan title ini? Kita sepatutnya berusaha kearah melahirkan lebih ramai MASHAFIZUL, ANAS, NICHOLAS CHAN dll. Individu yang akan bertarung dipersada antarabangsa, bukannya SELANGOR atau KL.....
Kita ada bakat baru seperti Li Tian, Nabila, Eng Chiam dan yang lain-lain. Kalau nak bergaduh dan berebut rebut dalam mencarikan mereka mereka ini sponsor,kan lebih baik daripada berebutkan title yang tak kemana sudahnya.

Anonymous said...

Jangan nak menang sorak jer, kampung kita dah tergadai.....
Betul tu, nak title overall champion nak buat apa. nak "udang"?
Positif la sikit kengkawan, berebut yang bukan2 tu nak wat pe.... Satu dunia dah tau, orang lain mana ada berebut rebut, melainkan dot.dot dan dot.dot.tu je...
Benar atau tidak, pentas individu MSSM 2009 hanya dibarisi oleh kebanyakan pemain yang lemah, sebab kebanyakan pasukan meletakan pemain kuat mereka didalam team event. Tidak kah ini telah merendahkan mutu pentas individu secara keseluruhannya ? Menang pun dengan sayur.....

Anonymous said...

Hakikatnya petandingan ini pasukan mss negeri bukan individu. Jadi keutamaan nya ialah pasukan mana yg akan menang. Selain selangor dan kl yg lain memeng tkde harapan pun jadi bergantung pada team saje. itu pun lah teruk juga. keputusan muktamad nya Selangor menang!

Anonymous said...

SELANGOR MENANG ?? MACAM PONDAN

Anonymous said...

Yang lain bapok lak? Tak perluler guna bahasa kesat. Dah kalah tu kalah je la

Anonymous said...

107 JUARA !
KONON NYA ADA NEGERI TU BYK BNTANG2 YANG MENYINAR, TP MALU BETUL TRPKSA GUNA PEMAIN XTRA

Anonymous said...

Kesian

Anonymous said...

Pintar!

Anonymous said...

Kesian ada yg terkena chekmate dalam percaturan MSSM

Anonymous said...

saya PT,negeri yg baru kelmarin daftar jd ahli MSSM ,tak ramai pemain tp kami byk wang, mohon tahun depan jd tuan rumah, juga mohon mana2 player kami yg tak ada, boleh d ganti dgn siapa saja,contoh nye;jurulatih atau ckg2 kami, sebab kami mesti menang walau apa jua cara,kan kami tuan rumah, kalau tak setuju,saya nangis la.. uwaa..haha uwaa ..haha. .

Anonymous said...

PT? Pulau Toman Ke? Jangan nangis nanti tegelam macm K....r

Anonymous said...

bAGUS BETUL BLOG INI. sEMUA ORG BERBAGAI NEGERI SUKA TENGOK.
Hebat

Anonymous said...

Selangor won. Selangor techers best. KL teachers sucks from leader to arbiters

Anonymous said...

I would like to thank Puan Sofia. You're really GREAT.
Without you, Selangor will ...

Anonymous said...

I agree. If it wasnt for pn sufian and the other selangor teachers, we would have never managed to get those extra 2 players to count and help us win. selangor teachers are the best!

Anonymous said...

kahkahkah. pn sufian..stupid

Anonymous said...

To win you must know rules and use it. selangor use the rules and other states also happy and use rules to win team event. Kl? dun use rule because teachers not so clever ler. This rule lead to kl lose

Anonymous said...

dlm AJARAN ISLAM , ATAU MANA2 AGAMA ,ADA KE YG AJAR MENIPU ATAU MENCURI

Anonymous said...

Any religion got rule to follow ma. so must know rule to get blessing and reward

Anonymous said...

rule dlm agama tidak boleh di tukar,tp rule di mssm d selangor boleh d tukar ganti sesedap hati,itu bukan rule,jika perdebatan d sini,berterusan dan lapuran di buat kpd FIDE ,atau KBS, CHESS MGKIN D KELUARKAN SEMULA DARI MSSM,di sel tak de blog hg pa mai melalak kat blog org tak tau adat kot

Anonymous said...

rule, rule,rule , RULE NYA , SALAH KALAU MASUK TEMPAT ORG DAN BUAT KELAKUAN TAK CUKUP AJAR

Anonymous said...

Okay,this blog is very good therapy for all chess players. Maybe we should move on. It's been about 10 days since the end of the tournament. It's no good for our Chess community and definitely not good for Chess Promotion.In fact, the players themselves, the children, are not that badly affected by all of this - they had fun.
So no matter what our differences, we still have something in common, we ALL love Chess! Let's play Chess. There's more that we can do for Chess and for those in Chess.
Collin
“Gens Una Sumus”
(We are all one family)

Anonymous said...

Chess rule bukan ugama rule, so mmang boleh tukar. Ugama rule pun bayak tukar2 - islam ada shafi ada sunni ada shiite. christian ada protestant ada catholic. Budhism xugama tapi sekarang? apa nama Hinduism lagi banyak rule sediri2 bikin. Ini blog kalu xmahu orng lai komen kina pandai set ler. aiyyaa bodh lah ini Kl. Kita orang Pahang pun tahu nanti malu kena hentam slangor. Mcm kata si collin ni move on la KL

Anonymous said...

This rules set by the host.

Anonymous said...

rubbish lah. what's your take on the stereotypical lawyer?basically, hes the guy who finds loopholes in the law to win a case that he shouldnt, i.e. people like johnnie cochrane. there is a line between rule abuse and the exercising of a rule,e.g. people exercise their right to vote, but some abuse it and end up voting twice.

imagine for example, a robber invades a house, and the lone occupant chases him outside and, lets say, attacks him some way. legally speaking, the attacker is at fault because the attack took place outside the house, and therefore the robber was not trespassing and it couldnt be proven that he broke into the house earlier. thats basically rule abuse.

what kind of retarded rule is it such that the host gets an advantage which nobody else has in reach? the kl team did try to win with the disadvantage with some sporting spirit, rather than boycott the unfair tournament policy. mssm players took an oath to play fairly with "semangat kesukanan", but apparently some people just feel that bending and abuse a rule here and there is necessary.

to think that all it takes to win in a tournament like mssm was just skill and teamwork. boy was i wrong. i'm severely disappointed with this years mssm. if i managed a contingent and won with an advantage which was only legal by the rules, i wouldnt be able to accept it so shamelessly.

i think next year all the states should try accusing each other of going to the toilet too many times and being suspected of consulting fritz/rybka/etc. maybe even throw in a bribe accusation when someone blunders...it is legal to voice your suspicion to deter cheating, right? wait this scenario does sound slightly familiar...

Anonymous said...

dont turn this into a debate on religion. theres plenty of place for that elsewhere. stay on the topic.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I don't think Selangor teachers and players are bad, I'm sure most of them are like any of the teachers from any state. I think the only 'kiasu' ones are the teachers who moved to allow their 2 players to count are the bad ones. Yes, they may have been entitled to do so, but is such an advantage necessary? What's the point of winning an event with an unfair advantage? They might as well have just bribed their way to 12 golds, its roughly the same, just a lot easier.

IMO the selangor PT who decided to make his state's extra 2 players count just got impatient..IMHO next year selangor has a good chance to be the overall MSSM champion since a lot of KL's strong players are leaving next year. But if Selangor does win next year, they sure as hell will not get as much as half a clap from me, and hopefully others as well. This policy the Selangor PT created disgusts me and is a 'lawyerish' exploit in its purest form. Did you know that Selangor was very strict in the participation forms and would reject any participation which the slightest inconsistency(b/p at the signature, etc)?(Again it's very much legal, but do you think they are really enforcing it in the spirit of fair play?).

I think that if the Selangor teachers involved in this scandal has any brains, they would retire next year to save whatever little that is left of their negative dignity.

Actually, I also think that if this type of strategy is necessary to win MSSM, MSSM should be discontinued until people learn to keep the war over the board and off elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

We notice the Sore losers r not players but KL adults - bringing religion and law to explain why KL lose. Blame Selangor for following law. What about MSSM officials who approve the law - sue them ? wait sue the MSSKL official too as they r also member of the comittee. Yeah these KL officials r the most stupid and put all KL people laughing stock.

Anonymous said...

Last year Melaka host, mereka guna lebih dari 2 extra players....tiada siapa yg bising.

Tahun 2007 Sarawak tuan rumah, mereka juga guna lebih dari 2 extra players.....juga tiada siapa yg bising.

Mengapa tahun ini ketika Selangor menjadi tuan rumah, terlalu ramai yg mempersoalkan ttg extra players.

Selangor hanya bermain mengikut peraturan MSSM....15 negeri tiada masalah dgn peraturan MSSM tetapi mengapa KL bermasalah dgn peraturan MSSM thn ini. Mengapa isu ini tidak ditimbulkan KL pada tahun2 lepas???

Kebanyakan komen2 disini hanya ditulis oleh manusia2 yg tiada semangat kesukanan, tidak dpt menerima kekalahan dan menjahanamkan sukan catur itu sendiri.

Post yg bertajuk "Kedudukan Mata Keseluruhan Kejohanan Catur MSSM 2009" juga cuba mencipta permusuhan antara Selangor dan KL, mujurla Selangor tiada blog yg cuba menghangatkan keadaan...Tahniah guru2 Selangor.

Catur pernah tiada dalam kalender MSSM selama 5 tahun, ramai guru2 yg berjuang utk memasukkannya semula, setelah dapat malangnya ada pula guru2 yg cuba menghancurkannya.

-capablanca-

Anonymous said...

Kalu tak manakan nama nya Kuala Lumpur- penuh berlumpur dengan niat hasad dengki.

Anonymous said...

screw your niat hasad dengki lah. you people gloat so much about a win with an unfair advantage like youre the freaking gods now... of course people have to bring your overinflated ego back down to earth. dont forget that now selangor has only managed to become the overall champion only as many times as kl.

and frankly, kl didnt care about other states sending extra players with points that count simply because really, they dont have a good chance of becoming the overall champion. kl people arent that desperate to cut down the competition. but when such a close rival like selangor gets this advantage, of course its not right. the past few years have had selangor and kl beating each other by a hair's breadth and to give selangor an advantage this year is simply upsetting the balance.

Anonymous said...

Extra players been used for so many years but not extra points.

Anonymous said...

Its not KL. I heard Mr Khaw, Malacca Mr Zaidi en Mr Rosli Sarawak are also discussing and complain about it.

Anonymous said...

Many dont understand that here discussing is about extra points. Not extra players. I talk to Mr Khaw and he said extra poins should not been counted. extra players can only get the medals. But he said Pn Sofia wants it to be counted and she cried for it and MOE decide to side on her

Anonymous said...

LOL?omfg selangor pt is a crybaby =x

Anonymous said...

Yup. Confirm. I heard from .....

Anonymous said...

para sahabat silakan masukk... yang nak melalak SILAKAN balik kampung laman lo..lumpur la..kalau tak silap..ramai org sengaja mandi lumpur utk terapi .... patut la BERDUYUN YANG SAKIT ATI TGK kL ASYIK JUARA..

Anonymous said...

ALAMAK , BABY SIAPA TU YG TAK FAHAM ISU,CUBA DUDUK DIAM2 DAN FIKIR DGN MINDA BERSIH , SIAPA YANG HASAD DENGKI 107 ATAU 103 !!!!!!

Anonymous said...

tiada siapa yg nak hancurkan chess, tapi rule yg unfair yg ada dlm mssm chess yg kalau terus di biarkan,lambat-cepat, bakal memburukkan chess , ingat2

hate selangor so much said...

to all selangor player (fucker player) get out and no need to show ur asshole comment in kl blog la !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

hahahaha.
Cry lady cry.Up up to the sky

Anonymous said...

jutaan terima kasih kpd semua cikgu2 catur kL ,dari peringkat zon hingga ke mssm, cikgu suhairi,ckg shamiza,utz rahman,ckgu azwan,ckg rezal,ckg rosman,ckg helmi,ckg shmsdin,juga puan Latifah pengetua sek men aminuddin baki,segala usaha ckg2 semua di sanjung tinggi,pedulikan kata2 kesat dan keji dari negeri lain,kita melangkah kedepan,mara , tinggalkan mereka yg leka dan tertipu.

Anonymous said...

Still in state of denial KL! You lost .period. Respect and play by rule. and Move on

Anonymous said...

selangor loser n lost , menipu diri sendiri , cry lady cry, cry old baby

Anonymous said...

anyone knw sel blog?

Anonymous said...

if there was one, it would be gone by now.

selangor player said...

i want to ask from u all kindness
pls give me the selangor chess blog. pls...
(cikgu zulkifli's blog)

Anonymous said...

there is no such thing.

Anonymous said...

How come you ask the things that not exist or unknown or rubbish here? Go and find it yourself at the pet shop iddy.

Anonymous said...

Or are you cikgu Zul that purposely ask that kinda of question here?
I'm sorry cikgu ZUL. Trying to tell people that you have your own blog? Just a few moments ago? Only full with your daughter pic or story hah.
Ridiculous

Anonymous said...

Adoi, sudah kena tangkap!! Tapi saya tak malu, saya kulit tebal (macam kerbau). Muahaha!

Cikgu Zul

Anonymous said...

im sorry la but could you pls give me selangor chess blog that cikgu zul make pls pls

Anonymous said...

where, when,which,what,who? where got??????? dont ask that kind of question anymore?

Anonymous said...

I heard he just learn swiss manager from KL teachers and yet be MSSM head arbiter. I dunno how MOE chose and what reason he been chosen. kiddo

Anonymous said...

During MSSM, i managed to talk to the Selangor teachers, they said if KL wanted to protest they should protest before the start of the tournament and NOT AFTER THEY LOST. You have agreed to the terms and thus... accept your lost!

Anonymous said...

For Above: Protest about the extra points i mean...